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	<title>Comments on: Anonymity isn&#8217;t to blame for bad site comments, it&#8217;s a lack of staff interaction</title>
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		<title>By: Link roundup: Demographics, Quora, Instagram and news from old media &#124; Zombie Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link roundup: Demographics, Quora, Instagram and news from old media &#124; Zombie Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news outlet that goes this route, they insist this will make their comments less vitriolic. You know I feel about that business. From what I can tell, there&#8217;s no system in place at registration for ensuring the names they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] news outlet that goes this route, they insist this will make their comments less vitriolic. You know I feel about that business. From what I can tell, there&#8217;s no system in place at registration for ensuring the names they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw that too. It&#039;s tough to really evaluate it until we can see what it looks like. You can bet everyone in the industry will be watching this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw that too. It&#39;s tough to really evaluate it until we can see what it looks like. You can bet everyone in the industry will be watching this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw that too. It&#039;s tough to really evaluate it until we can see what it looks like. You can bet everyone in the industry will be watching this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw that too. It&#8217;s tough to really evaluate it until we can see what it looks like. You can bet everyone in the industry will be watching this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frymaster</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Frymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, what&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/02/AR2010040202324_2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this here&lt;/a&gt;? Looks like WaPo is going with tiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, what&#39;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/02/AR2010040202324_2.html" rel="nofollow">this here</a>? Looks like WaPo is going with tiers.</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Anonymous news comments, two big media law cases, and a health coverage critique &#124; Mark Coddington</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Anonymous news comments, two big media law cases, and a health coverage critique &#124; Mark Coddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to management, in fostering great commenting community. The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Mandy Jenkins offered similar thoughts, saying that anonymity doesn’t matter nearly as much as an active, personable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to management, in fostering great commenting community. The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Mandy Jenkins offered similar thoughts, saying that anonymity doesn’t matter nearly as much as an active, personable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Reader: Newspapers, newspapers, newspapers. Oh, newspapers. &#171; Intro to Online Journalism</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Reader: Newspapers, newspapers, newspapers. Oh, newspapers. &#171; Intro to Online Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and comments: Still doing it wrong. [Zombie Journalism, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and comments: Still doing it wrong. [Zombie Journalism, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You touch here on a theory I&#039;ve had about news site commenters. I&#039;ve noted from some of my interactions with our site&#039;s users that many of them are older or not particularly web-savvy. For some, this is the first website they&#039;ve ever joined to comment on anything. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My theory is that a great deal of those who comment on news sites simply do not know what an online community is even supposed to be like. They&#039;ve never been members of message boards or Facebook or written in Livejournals. They don&#039;t know about online etiquette, about moderating oneself before posting, about what a good comment even is (hence why so many commenters still type in ALL CAPS!!!!!).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a whole new element of responsibility to take on, but maybe we should be doing more to educate our members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks! </p>
<p>You touch here on a theory I&#39;ve had about news site commenters. I&#39;ve noted from some of my interactions with our site&#39;s users that many of them are older or not particularly web-savvy. For some, this is the first website they&#39;ve ever joined to comment on anything. </p>
<p>My theory is that a great deal of those who comment on news sites simply do not know what an online community is even supposed to be like. They&#39;ve never been members of message boards or Facebook or written in Livejournals. They don&#39;t know about online etiquette, about moderating oneself before posting, about what a good comment even is (hence why so many commenters still type in ALL CAPS!!!!!).</p>
<p>It&#39;s a whole new element of responsibility to take on, but maybe we should be doing more to educate our members.</p>
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		<title>By: Frymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspaper websites, take note. Use the above as an example of direct user / author interaction to the good. In fact, hire Mandy to consult and train your soon-to-be-hired moderators. Let the journos play, too. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mandy, I think the short answer is to have a moderators panel define clear criteria for what a &#039;good post&#039; consists of: relevance to topic or thread, cites specific point of discussion, uses supporting data, good grammar, absence (or presence) of LOLcat-speak, etc. That makes it easier to assess contentious discussions without taking a side or appearing to take a side. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Over time, the community develops an ethos of respect and quality contribution. Let the heavies pummel a couple of the wankers so they know you mean business. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspaper websites, take note. Use the above as an example of direct user / author interaction to the good. In fact, hire Mandy to consult and train your soon-to-be-hired moderators. Let the journos play, too. </p>
<p>Mandy, I think the short answer is to have a moderators panel define clear criteria for what a &#39;good post&#39; consists of: relevance to topic or thread, cites specific point of discussion, uses supporting data, good grammar, absence (or presence) of LOLcat-speak, etc. That makes it easier to assess contentious discussions without taking a side or appearing to take a side. </p>
<p>Over time, the community develops an ethos of respect and quality contribution. Let the heavies pummel a couple of the wankers so they know you mean business. <img src='http://zombiejournalism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://zombiejournalism.com/2010/03/anonymous-comments-arent-the-problem-on-news-sites-its-a-lack-of-staff-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. I know from being the hand-slapper that you never get off on a good foot with a community member if the first time you&#039;re ever talking to them is when they&#039;re in trouble.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Weird, I put this in yesterday and just noticed it never posted via Disqus)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. I know from being the hand-slapper that you never get off on a good foot with a community member if the first time you&#39;re ever talking to them is when they&#39;re in trouble.</p>
<p>(Weird, I put this in yesterday and just noticed it never posted via Disqus)</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s been all sorts of discussion at the Gannett corporate level about a tiered commenter system like you suggest. I don&#039;t know if anything will come of it, but we thought of having the comments of both verified (via Facebook) and highly-recommended users displayed in a more prominent position than that of anonymous or new/flagged users. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know a lot of sites have certain elements of that, but nothing is perfect. You can vote up and down comments on a site like Digg, for instance, but we&#039;ve all seen how that also leads to unpopular opinions getting buried by their opposition. A quantity of posts and a lot of &quot;likes&quot; from a core group of like-minded friends can raise ranks on message boards, but that doesn&#039;t mean the person in question is necessarily offering any discussion of merit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s tough to make a system that is fair - and I think that&#039;s an issue a lot of developers will face in the coming years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s been all sorts of discussion at the Gannett corporate level about a tiered commenter system like you suggest. I don&#39;t know if anything will come of it, but we thought of having the comments of both verified (via Facebook) and highly-recommended users displayed in a more prominent position than that of anonymous or new/flagged users. </p>
<p>I know a lot of sites have certain elements of that, but nothing is perfect. You can vote up and down comments on a site like Digg, for instance, but we&#39;ve all seen how that also leads to unpopular opinions getting buried by their opposition. A quantity of posts and a lot of &#8220;likes&#8221; from a core group of like-minded friends can raise ranks on message boards, but that doesn&#39;t mean the person in question is necessarily offering any discussion of merit.</p>
<p>It&#39;s tough to make a system that is fair &#8211; and I think that&#39;s an issue a lot of developers will face in the coming years.</p>
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